Why Limited Registration? Explained

Perspective has two lenses. Through one you see your own and through the second, the other person's point of view. I feel the need to explain why we don't offer full registration anymore. Please be patient and bear with me.

--Basic definition: Limited Registration-CANNOT register future pups from the AKC Griff being bought. Griff can still be entered in AKC field trials.

--Full Registration- pups from AKC Griff CAN be registered with the AKC

My goals when we started to breed Griffs was for the long run, and not just a litter here and there to make a few extra bucks. The money has been nice, but I've always had a fascination with hunting dogs and meeting people all over the nation.  I wanted to be a part of that world for as long as I could.
       First I will start from the other persons point of view. Maybe some of the questions you've asked yourself, "why limited registration?" $1000 is a lot of money, I get that, every penny of it. I have to grind and fight for every one of mine as well. So I've been asked before, "If I pay that much money for a dog, I should be able to do what I want with it." I agree. I've bought 8 griffs and they are not cheap. You CAN breed your dog, and have pups, especially if you're wanting another hunting dog(but CAN'T register that litter).
        This is my point of view. When I first started several years ago there was 118 Griff breeders on gundog breeders, now there are 228, and quickly rising. Puppies that I have sold, I am now competing against. Things that I was creative with, in marketing my dogs, are now being used exactly the same way. Sadly, a lot are the pups that I've sold. Expectations and demands for a breeding dog being sold were greater. Therefore drama started with wanting full registration. I did the numbers and 80-90% of our pups we placed with families, didn't want anything to do with breeding anyways. So we made the decision to avoid the whole full registration part of placing our pups. Since then, life has been a lot better. I hope you can see that and respect that.
         We are down to earth people and simple. Our philosophy is to collect the best natural ability/ family friendly personality and genetics available, and offer them at a great price. That reflects and takes into consideration the limited registration at $1000. Pups are being sold at $1200-$2000 full registration. I can join that group. Griffs can make good money and that is a very small investment for the buyer and the returns they want.  Like I said before, we've opted out of that world, and find joy in the family/hunting pups we offer.
           Hopefully that answers the question of "Why?" Hopefully both points of view have been addressed, and both sides will be respected. Hopefully by being honest and willing to talk about it, we can earn your trust and get you a great lifelong friend. This will not only put several great memories, but many birds in your pocket as well. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions. Thank you and Happy Hunting!


  1. "WELL SAID"

  2. Greg and Lynette Sali Boise, IDJuly 29, 2019 at 1:28 AM

    Glad your dogs are family friendly. We honestly don't care about registration, we just want a loving dog with personality! We love this breed and have rescued one and purchased one...not sure whether they were actual griffons or drahthaars, but we LOVE this breed. We just had to put our beloved Lili to sleep. She was a family member for 15 1/2 yrs.

  3. Where in Idaho are you located?